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#1 [url]

Nov 14 09 2:30 AM

Hey! I think you were actually light mixing during the Gs of the songs, good job! Some kinda pitchyness and slight pull it seems at times, but good mix-wise :P. I feel like you're always holding back though, at least from the perspective of volume.

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#2 [url]

Nov 14 09 7:18 AM

Yeah WASSSUPPPP MAAAAAAAAAAN

Seriously though - yeah I edit my clips on an audio/video editing program and I can see that the wave forms that represent volume on my upper registers (head/falsetto/mix) are dwarfed by how naturally loud I *could* go in chest and pure chest (below my bridge)...

I think the slight pulls (e.g. banner YEEHHT waave) in "yet" is where I kind of engage full chest too soon instead of gradually let head voice coat a little bit of that area around my first bridge hmmm... My bridge D4 kind of feels really really weird...

This was acapella so I pretty much controlled what notes I like and I instinctively prolly didn't go beyond A4.... I really sound like a sissy on A4-B4...

Maybe a liiittle more work on that half octave on the 1st bridge and my high A's will have the core... or the musical gonads image as my classmate would say. (referring to male singers with strong high notes, he calls it the musical gonads.)

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Dec 9 09 6:24 AM

Musiciano,

Yeah, I think I felt it was missing something too.... but only perhaps because I still lack compression? More compression might equal better emotion perhaps, as in what Dave Brooks said?

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Dec 9 09 9:05 AM

I'm not totally sure what musiciano meant, but i don't think it has to do with compression or not so much, although that can of course factor in. It sounds more like you are reading lyrics from your computer, sustaining, and adding pitches. Even for the anthem, I think there has to be a certain degree of connection to the song, even if only in an off-handed way. You want to put a "force" behind the song. Not as in tension power of compression, but a force as in some kind of real drive as a singer. This can happen whether you are are singing super lightly or belting like kelly clarkson.

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Dec 9 09 2:48 PM

It's not technical, you are holding back way too much. This usually happens due to fear of exposing oneself. It could be tied into how expressive of your emotions you are allowed to be at home.

It's way too emotionally safe a scared. Way too afraid of not getting it right, way too afraid of not sounding good.

This isn't a technical thing, this is an emotional barrier, to achieve the character and boldness required you will have to step out of your current persona box. Stretch your current fearful persona.

It's not easy. You are too familiar with your current insecure, inferior self... you don't know how to be anything else for now. It has a lot to do with age too...

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#7 [url]

Dec 9 09 5:46 PM

Napilopez wrote:
a force as in some kind of real drive as a singer. This can happen whether you are are singing super lightly or belting like kelly clarkson.

Okay, you're already awesome, but anyone who mentions Kelly Clarkson favorably wins MAJOR brownie points in my book. Have I mentioned that I love her? Oh yes, I probably have.

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Dec 9 09 6:13 PM

I'm 23... I may not express myself much at home but I'm very expressive in school...

but the time I was recording this, well I was worried about the neighbors listening hahaha....

I remember you wrote, Musiciano that there was a point that you just let whatever come out, come? Without worrying about what anybody else said?

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Dec 9 09 8:29 PM

"I remember you wrote, Musiciano that there was a point that you just let whatever come out, come? Without worrying about what anybody else said? "

Yeah, in my experience, that's the only way to truly BE.

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#10 [url]

Dec 9 09 9:56 PM

Haha yay UW!

As tfor the letting yourself be, it reallyis crucial. That's ALWAYS when I get my best recordings(what I call milestone recordings). My first mix, my first semi professional soudinging recording, my most emotionally charged ones. The way I always saw it is that you train all these things technically, so that these tools can be used more instinctively when you sing, where the primary purpose is to communicate something. Technique shouldnt overshadow the ability to communicate a song. Obviously this is a technque based forum and whatnot, but just don't forget that =P

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Dec 10 09 6:38 AM

I agree!

I've been trying your WASSUP MAN thing Nape =p
but still hold back gotta find places where I can do it, or just situations with friends where I could have the liberty to do that, so I wouldn't be inhibited always

EDIT: Yeah, I would like to be technically proficient BUT most of all I'd really like to be able to sing as emotionally charged as this guy, right here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TPju_pVKV0

not saying that I like to "sound like him" BUT ultimately I'd like to get to that level of emotional artistry...


Last Edited By: refuter Dec 10 09 6:40 AM. Edited 1 time.

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#12 [url]

Dec 10 09 6:49 AM

Definitely try to find somewhere where you can sing with complete freedom! Even if you don't sing loud, it's about getting rid of those mental barriers, which at least for me were bigger than any others.

Fall into yourself.

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Dec 11 09 1:53 PM

You sound unsure of yourself when you sing. Also there's rhythm issues with the song. Listen to someone like Whitney Houston or Martina McBride sing the song and tap your foot along to what they sing. Try singing along. Choppy rhythms can make you sound unsure because it makes the song sound awkward. Like, I may know the melody, and the words, but something is off. People may not know what is off but subconsciously they feel it.

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#14 [url]

Dec 11 09 9:02 PM

Thanks, Sergio!!

Damn I knew something was still wrong with the phrasing... image

Thanks, I'll try that, the foot-tapping... I also spoke to a pianist I knew and I told him about my crappy phrasing, and he said why not try to use a metronome...

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Dec 12 09 10:06 PM

Yeah I agree with the whole metronome thing. But, different styles will use different phrasings, so you're going to have to pay attention to where the notes fall on the beat. Pick a version of the song that you want to sing, and then learn to stay on time note for note. Once you're good there you can then experiment with making it "your own" version.

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Dec 12 09 11:54 PM

Well, they say know the rules before you break them...

I guess Sergio is saying know the darn song before you experiment with it... I botched up some songs some 8 months ago because of bad rhythm.. haha

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