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Jul 18 07 9:42 AM

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After reading through many threads now I think I have confused myself.

On an 88 key piano there are a few notes below the lowest C note, so I'm thinking that the B note just below the lowest C note (C1) would be defined as (B1)???

If that is true then A6 would be just above C5??? But I think most folks here think it is the other way around. But I don't know, like I said, I'm confused now.

If the above is not true then the B note on the piano below the lowest C note would be (B0)???

Andre
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Jul 18 07 11:36 AM

Re: --- C4 -- A? -- (C5) -- A? -- C6 ---

The numbers only change when you hit a C. So starting on middle C, a C major scale would look like this:

C4, D4, E4, F4, G4, A4, B4, C5.

The lowest B on the piano is a B0, not B1. B1 would be the B an octave up from that (the B right below bass low C). A6 is the A above soprano high C (the third A above middle C). I had a big article about this on another forum some time ago, but it's been taken down. I'll see if I can find it, though.

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Jul 18 07 2:34 PM

Re: --- C4 -- A? -- (C5) -- A? -- C6 ---

Thanks Cuno...

Then jeez, Cuno, based on another post of yours you can sing an octave above my Holy Grail Note (A5) of which I will be very happy to say is mine some day. Also based on your other posts, are you saying that if I could stumble on the correct coordination tomorrow, all other things being equal, I could hit an A5 or higher? To find this coordination, is it a question "trial and error" or "time and training"?

Andre

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Jul 18 07 4:27 PM

Re: --- C4 -- A? -- (C5) -- A? -- C6 ---

Training involves trial and error. You have to try and maybe fail, and try again before you "stumble" upon the correct approach. Even with someone giving you the correct sound (speaking from experience myself), I'm sure you've noticed difficulty finding it, at least the first few times.

-Joshie

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Jul 18 07 9:10 PM

Re: --- C4 -- A? -- (C5) -- A? -- C6 ---

Yes, the highest note I can hit is an octave above the note you're going for. It's possible that you can stumble upon the correct coordination at anytime. All it takes it coordination to hit the note well. (Easier said than done.) You come across this coordination not so much through "time and training", but moreso just from "trial and error". Experimentation is the only way you'll really learn it. You have to go through all of the wrong coordinations to get to the right one. That's why it's important to constantly try things in different ways...you'll never discover newer, better coordinations if you always practice the exact same way. Now, if you have a good teacher, they'll be able to tell you when you're closer to the goal and farther away from it, but even then, it's still mostly trial and error that you must operate off of.

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Jul 19 07 8:09 AM

Re: --- C4 -- A? -- (C5) -- A? -- C6 ---

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Even with someone giving you the correct sound (speaking from experience myself), I'm sure you've noticed difficulty finding it


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Experimentation is the only way you'll really learn it. You have to go through all of the wrong coordinations to get to the right one. That's why it's important to constantly try things in different ways...you'll never discover newer, better coordinations if you always practice the exact same way.


In the beginning, did it seem like you guys hit a wall and
can you explain how you went about getting further up the scale?

Currently, I can sing an E5 comfortably. I can barely squeak out an F5 then I hit the wall. I can and do transcend the E5 note to give it a more full and louder sound in hopes to strengthen my cords to allow them to zip up to a F5 and beyond. I'm not sure this will help me find the coordination I need though. It seems that I cannot sing the F5 the same way I sing the E5 and something has to change.

Andre

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Jul 19 07 5:21 PM

Re: --- C4 -- A? -- (C5) -- A? -- C6 ---

Personally, each note is going to have to be somewhat different. If I tried to tackle the F5 in the same manner as my E5, I would mess it up and hit a wall.

You play around. Mess with things just to be doing it. Don't worry about a certain sound, and don't have a goal other than to play. That's how I got past it.

-Joshie

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Angels are among us; when you find them, cherish their presence everyday.

Never argue with an idiot; they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. ~ anonymous

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Jul 20 07 11:10 AM

Re: --- C4 -- A? -- (C5) -- A? -- C6 ---

You know I don't think I have ever heard a male sing a scale going up to around a C6 let alone a A6. I mean one of us, not some singing star. I think it would be very cool to hear a clip of you guys that can do it navigate up the scale. Oh and did I mention motivating.

Thanks,
Andre

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